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Atsuko Okatsuka on playing an unhinged Asian in ‘Outcome’

The comedian-turned-actor on playing a messy Asian onscreen, and improvising alongside her fellow stand-ups and Keanu Reeves in "Outcome"

From left, Roy Wood Jr. and Atsuko Okatsuka in "Outcome."

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Words by Anjana Pawa

When Jonah Hill was casting Outcome, his latest dark comedy about a Hollywood star scrambling to get ahead of a blackmail scandal, he didn't just want a star-studded cast of actors, he wanted the right mix of artists to create a very specific kind of chaos on screen. The film centers on Reef Hawk (Keanu Reeves), an actor whose crisis lawyer delivers devastating news: a mysterious and incriminating video from his past has surfaced and they must find the blackmailer, who is asking for millions of dollars in exchange for its safekeeping.

For the role of Unis Kim, an activist who founded the hashtag #StopImitatingAsianPeople and gets pulled into a crisis management dream team for Reef, Hill turned to stand-up comedian Atsuko Okatsuka.

Okatsuka, who became the second Asian American woman to have a stand-up special on HBO in 2022, brings a sharp energy to the character of Unis that she herself describes bluntly as unhinged. And on the set of Outcome, that energy was palpable. Hill, as director, encouraged extensive improvisation, allowing comedy experts to riff off each other freely.

Outcome is streaming now on Apple TV. We sat down with Okatsuka to talk about her character, what it's like to improvise opposite Reeves, and what it means to be able to play a messy Asian on screen.

This interview has been edited for clarity and length.

Anjana Pawa: Congratulations on the film. I just got a chance to watch it. It's hilarious, laugh-out-loud funny, but also really dark in a way where you don't realize what's really happening until it's unfolding. Tell me about your character, Unis Kim, and how she comes into the film.
Atsuko Okatsuka: First off, I'm excited that you watched it, because I haven't seen it yet. I get to watch it for the first time at the premiere. I was like, “Ooh, do I get spoilers from this interview?”

AP: Don’t worry, I'll be spoiler free!
AO: I actually love spoilers. I like to prep my heart. I can't just go into something cold, you know?

With Unis, from what I remember from the script and from being on set, we're part of the crisis management team. I'm representing the Asian American community, and that comes with its own unhingedness.

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From left, Keanu Reeves, Cameron Diaz and Matt Bomer in "Outcome."

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AP: The movie is really a dark comedy about how Hollywood unravels when it tries to crisis-manage itself. Was there a moment reading the script where you thought, “this feels a little too real?”
AO: We're all in the industry as actors, stand-up comedians. So the idea of someone coming after you from comments you might see on a clip you posted, or reviews of your specials—I could really relate to that feeling of, “Who is this person after me? What are they nitpicking? Who's constantly watching me and waiting for me to fail?”

And in a way, it's like they're obsessed. They love you. They're your biggest fan, even while they're looking for something to use against you. That's usually what that is. I think the movie is a great reminder that the universe is huge and we're actually all really small. It doesn't have to be so much about you.

AP: You come from stand-up, which is a completely different world from film. You're stepping into this massive ensemble—Jonah Hill directing, Keanu Reeves, Cameron Diaz, Matt Bomer in the cast. What was it like navigating that?
AO: It's really exciting. Stand-up is a very lonely job. You're on stage alone, you're backstage alone before you go up and address thousands of people, and then you get off stage alone. When you're writing, it's by yourself. When you're practicing, you're directing yourself in front of a mirror. So it's really cool to collaborate with other artists and fellow weirdos. And to feel like you want to show up, because other people are depending on you. It's that same idea, you're small, it's bigger than you, it's a team.

AP: A lot of your scenes had a big group of people all playing off each other's comedic styles. You and Roy Wood Jr. were in scenes together—two stand-ups in the middle of this cast. Was there an unspoken solidarity there between the comics?
AO: It was really fun, and Jonah trusted us a lot. Me and Roy had a great time. But you have to be careful when you tell comedians to go play, because…are you sure? Because here we are, 45 minutes later, still doing the take.

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Keanu Reeves and Jonah Hill in "Outcome."

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AP: Was there a lot of room for improvisation?
AO: A lot. A few of the takes ran about an hour long. We knew it wasn't that long—but when you have that many funny people around a table, it's hard not to just keep going. And Jonah was yes-and-ing the whole thing. Poor Keanu was like, "I thought there was a script."

AP: So he'd memorized his lines exactly, and everyone else was just riffing.
AO: I was doing my job! And we were like, “Oh right, sorry, there's no live audience in front of us.” That's the instinct that kicks in. Performing for a camera is so different from performing for thousands of people you're having a direct conversation with in real time. With a movie, the audience won't even see it until sometimes two years later and that's the case here. We shot this two years ago.

AP: What does it mean for you to be in a film like this as an Asian American—getting to be funny and unhinged in a space where you're openly free to express yourself?
AO: It's cool because in the movie, I'm literally representing the Asian American community as a whole, that's why my character is brought in. And Keanu is Asian too. So we're playing different spectrums of these identities that sometimes come together and sometimes are completely separate. That nuance on screen—the fact that we get to show different sides of an Asian identity—is really special.